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Ellis Hein
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  • Casper, WY
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Patricia Dallmann commented on Ellis Hein's blog post Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 2 of 3
"It would be most frustrating to live within a culture of that type. The structural errors of the becoming "saved" through accepting the substitutionary death on the cross and the "sanctification" by receiving the Holy Spirit…"
21 hours ago
Ellis Hein commented on Ellis Hein's blog post Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 2 of 3
"Pat, I don't know that I can really speak to what you are saying about the difference between Holy Spirit Christianity and the early Friends. But it may be helpful to describe my experience of these things, both as growing up among Evangelicals…"
yesterday
Ellis Hein posted a blog post

Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 3 of 3

So, are we doing anything more than playing semantics? What difference of understanding is to be gained by looking at things from one point of view or the other? Consider Epistle XXXII in Vol. VII of the Works of Fox, "When your minds go forth from the pure spirit of God and are drawn out from it, there the image of God comes to be lost, in those whose mind goes out from the pure to lust after that which is in the fall, which may appear like truth in the notion..."Make the following…See More
yesterday
Patricia Dallmann commented on Ellis Hein's blog post Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 2 of 3
"I don't have any first-hand knowledge of Holy Spirit Christians, but I do know what Fox refers to here in this passage. From your description, Ellis, it appears to me that the difference between Holy Spirit Christians and Quakers is that the…"
Fourthday
Ellis Hein left a comment for Scott Poole
"Scott, A couple of things that you may be interested in. This July, 9-12, there will be an NFF gathering near Casper, WY. If you are interested, contact my wife, Becky, rhein-at-vcn.com. The deadline of May 1st for registration is close, so you are…"
Fourthday
Ellis Hein left a comment for Scott Poole
"Welcome, Scott, to the NFF website. Feel free to introduce yourself and tell us about your interest in our work. I look forward to getting to know you."
Thirdday
Ellis Hein commented on Ellis Hein's blog post Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 1 of 3
"Thank you, Pat, for the quotes from Penn. An Evangelical tract that was popular some years ago, and may be still extant, that was called "Four Spiritual Laws" might be a good comparison to what Fox had to say. If I remember correctly, it…"
Thirdday
Ellis Hein posted a blog post

Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 2 of 3

Even though Fox spoke and wrote about the spirit of God, at times calling it the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Ghost, what he has to say and how it relates to the gospel is all Hebrew, there is not a shred of similarity with Holy Spirit Christianity. For example: "For though I read the scriptures that spake of Christ and of God, yet I knew Him not but by revelation as he who hath the key did open and as the Father of life drew me to his son by his spirit." (Works, Vol. I, p. 75) Fox asserts that the…See More
Thirdday
Patricia Dallmann commented on Ellis Hein's blog post Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 1 of 3
"The doctrine of one God in three distinct and separate persons was refuted by early Friends as not Scriptural. William Penn published a tract titled "The Sandy Foundation Shaken," in which he refuted several typically held doctrines using…"
Secondday
Ellis Hein posted a blog post

Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 1 of 3

Some years ago, while attending a lecture series given by Lewis Benson, I asked how we could convince Holy-Spirit-Christians that what Fox was saying was substantially different than what they were saying. Lewis replied that, given my background from evangelical Christianity, he hoped that I could provide the answer. I could not then articulate what I felt to be a great difference between Fox's proclamation that Christ has come to teach His people Himself and the gospel of Holy Spirit…See More
Firstday
Ellis Hein left a comment for Volker Eulering
"Volker, I am glad to see that you have gotten the password difficulties straightened out. Don't let what you call your poor English discourage you from posting material. I was able to understand easily what you wrote in our email…"
4thMo 10
Allan Halton commented on Ellis Hein's blog post The Sheep May Safely Graze
"That is quite the dream that Lewis Benson had.  How does one get into this safe haven?  Simply walk through "the door" that "is the light that is in the life that is in the Word of God."   Those…"
4thMo 5
Patricia Dallmann commented on Ellis Hein's blog post The Sheep May Safely Graze
"May we enjoy forever the bread of eternal life. Ellis, you have written well of those who came before and likewise fought the Lamb's War."
4thMo 5
Ellis Hein posted a blog post

The Sheep May Safely Graze

I have had a sense that this discussion about the early Friends not practicing the ritual of taking the bread and wine is not complete, but I have not seen where it should go until now. We have said, "Paul wrote..." and "Paul must have meant..." in our grapplings with the subject. We have looked at various passages from the works of Fox showing how scripture had been opened to him. This morning I was shown what to do with all this.There is a beautiful passage from Vol. 4 of Fox's Works, pp.…See More
4thMo 4
Allan Halton commented on Ellis Hein's blog post Fox References regarding the Lord's Supper
"Thanks, Becky.  A good reminder. Ellis, yes, that is right, we have One who teaches us to please our Father, and this is why we earnestly want to know what our Teacher is saying to us.  Then it becomes a matter of conscience to do…"
4thMo 4
Ellis Hein commented on Ellis Hein's blog post Fox References regarding the Lord's Supper
"Bill, Yes we do disagree. Thank you for your willingness to drop the subject. Ellis"
4thMo 4

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Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 3 of 3

So, are we doing anything more than playing semantics? What difference of understanding is to be gained by looking at things from one point of view or the other? 



Consider Epistle XXXII in Vol. VII of the Works of Fox, "When your minds go forth from the pure spirit of God and are drawn out from it, there the image of God comes to be lost, in those whose mind goes out from the pure to lust after that which is in the fall, which may appear like truth in the notion..."



Make…

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Posted on 4thMo. 23, 2015 at 12:00

Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 2 of 3

Even though Fox spoke and wrote about the spirit of God, at times calling it the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Ghost, what he has to say and how it relates to the gospel is all Hebrew, there is not a shred of similarity with Holy Spirit Christianity. For example: "For though I read the scriptures that spake of Christ and of God, yet I knew Him not but by revelation as he who hath the key did open and as the Father of life drew me to his son by his spirit." (Works, Vol. I, p. 75) Fox asserts that…

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Posted on 4thMo. 21, 2015 at 12:00 — 3 Comments

Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 1 of 3

Some years ago, while attending a lecture series given by Lewis Benson, I asked how we could convince Holy-Spirit-Christians that what Fox was saying was substantially different than what they were saying. Lewis replied that, given my background from evangelical Christianity, he hoped that I could provide the answer. I could not then articulate what I felt to be a great difference between Fox's proclamation that Christ has come to teach His people Himself and the gospel of Holy Spirit…

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Posted on 4thMo. 19, 2015 at 12:06 — 2 Comments

The Sheep May Safely Graze

I have had a sense that this discussion about the early Friends not practicing the ritual of taking the bread and wine is not complete, but I have not seen where it should go until now. We have said, "Paul wrote..." and "Paul must have meant..." in our grapplings with the subject. We have looked at various passages from the works of Fox showing how scripture had been opened to him. This morning I was shown what to do with all this.

There is a beautiful passage from Vol. 4 of Fox's…

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Posted on 4thMo. 4, 2015 at 13:21 — 2 Comments

Comment Wall (29 comments)

At 15:23 on 7thMo. 6, 2011, Tom Smith said…

We have been in the Minneapolis area for about a year. My major connection with NFF is that for 3 years we attended Manasquan MM with Lewis Benson. My father was a pastor in Indiana YM (FUM) and a missionary in Jamaica and Kenya. He was a student of Friends history and tried to convey the living Christ 24/7. We moved to NJ after my PhD in Science Ed and became "convinced" "unprogrammed" Friends especially with Lewis and other members there. I have been a member or "active attender" in FGC, FUM, Independent(Beanite), EFCI, and Conservative Meetings.

We are now "retired" near our daughter and her family.

At 12:14 on 7thMo. 7, 2011, Peter Glass said…

Hello Ellis,

I haven't yet met or known about Tom Smith, but am looking forward to perhaps meeting with him.

Thanks for the information!

Peter

At 7:28 on 7thMo. 11, 2011, Stuart Masters said…

Dear Ellis,

 

Thank you for your welcome. Just read your piece on the Lord's Prayer. Appreciated it!

 

Blessings,

 

Stuart.

At 2:34 on 7thMo. 22, 2011, Peter Glass said…

Hello Ellis,

b.t.w I emailed Tom Smith, but haven't received a reply yet. I'll track him down somehow, as he sounds like an interesting contact.

Regards,

Peter

At 17:28 on 7thMo. 22, 2011, Allistair Lomax said…

I'll put it to the other members of the site committee to see what they think?

Paul and Mike, any comments to this suggestion?

At 8:54 on 7thMo. 26, 2011, Kenneth Schroeder said…
Hi Ellis. As I am a bit isolated here in Portugal, and have no meeting to attend, I am always looking for other ways to surround myself with Quakers. Aside from the Bible and my Quaker Reader, the internet  seems to be the best way to do that. I am sure NFF will be a help to me, and I hope to contribute to the mission of NFF as well. Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to communicating with you in the future.
At 14:00 on 9thMo. 3, 2011, Peter Kennedy said…
Greetings from Scotland Ellis.  I have been a Quaker for just over 20 years and am saddened that some British Quakers do not seem to be interested in the words of George Fox and the early Quakers, they see them as being secondary to their Quakerism.  How often do we hear the words of early Friends quoted in ministry?  Fox said that Christ had come to teach his people himself, but we rarely hear his teachings or name in ministry either.
At 19:25 on 9thMo. 4, 2011, Peter Kennedy said…
I've been to one NFF meeting a few years back - in Edinburgh.   I work in Employabilty - supporting those with disabilities, mental health or substance misuse to get or maintain their employment.
At 15:53 on 9thMo. 5, 2011, Stephanie Stuckwisch said…

Hi Ellis,

No, it's not my work. It's the abalone inlay on the peghead of my mountain dulcimer. The luthier is Janita Baker.

Stephanie

At 22:35 on 9thMo. 11, 2011, Stephanie Stuckwisch said…
Sorry, Ellis. It's rosewood. The luthier told my walnut is too soft for an inlay.

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