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The New Church Order

When George Fox emerged on the scene, something new appeared in Christendom. The message Fox was commanded to preach laid an unheard of foundation for one’s life in God. So unheard of that it was often labeled “the Quaker’s new gospel.” The scriptures record the voice of God saying on the Mount of Transfiguration, “This is my son, my chosen one. Hear him.” Fox maintained by argument and convincing demonstration that the builders of the churches of his day began by rejecting God’s cornerstone…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 3rdMo. 11, 2017 at 12:53 — No Comments

Does The Rooster Crow In Vain?

But Peter answered and said to Him, "Even though all may fall away because of You, I will never fall away." Jesus said to him, "Truly I say to you that this very night, before a cock crows, you shall deny Me three times." Peter said to Him, "Even if I must die with You, I will not deny You." (Matt. 26:33-35)

Now Peter was sitting outside in the courtyard, and a certain servant-girl came to him and said, "You too were with Jesus the Galilean." But he denied it…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 2ndMo. 26, 2017 at 20:32 — 2 Comments

The Relation of Fox's Message to the Bible

A common phrase you may see describing a particular denomination or church is, “Bible based.” But the Biblical basis of Fox’s message was not a surface adherence to certain passages, but a comprehensive alignment with God’s purpose throughout history.

Fox lived in a period that was Biblically literate and highly religious. Since Fox rejected all the various forms of Christianity of his day, an appropriate question might be, “Was Fox a Christian?” Lewis Benson’s lecture no. 3,…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 12thMo. 30, 2016 at 4:00 — 4 Comments

Time To Plow

"For God hath raised up his own seed in his saints, which seed, Christ, is but one in all....So in that, which is raised up in us, which trampleth upon the earthly, dark power, have we unity with God, and fellowship with his son, and unity one with another.... And so, our unity and fellowship with vain man are lost, and all his evil ways are now turned into enmity; and all his profession is now found to be deceit, and in all his fairest pretences lodgeth cruelty; and the bottom and ground of… Continue

Added by Ellis Hein on 11thMo. 28, 2016 at 13:30 — 1 Comment

The Place of George Fox in Christian History: a review of Lewis Benson's first of ten Moorestown Lectures

It would seem reasonable to suppose that, nearly three centuries after the death of George Fox, there would be some measure of consensus among church historians concerning the place he should be assigned in Christian history. But this is not the case. They all agree that he has an assured place in history, but there is an astonishing variety of theories purporting to tell us exactly what that place is.…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 10thMo. 13, 2016 at 13:00 — 2 Comments

Fox and the Second Coming Part 2

There are many ways which this could be continued. But I think that with the previous post and with the material presented below, it is sufficient to get the direction of Fox's insights on what Christendom refers to as the "second coming of Christ."

I searched through the 8 volumes and found only one reference to "second coming" and that was a phrase used by a detractor. See below. Fox did not use that term, at least in the language we have recorded in the 8 volumes or in That Thy…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 9thMo. 18, 2016 at 13:00 — 1 Comment

Fox and the Second Coming

The "Second Coming" is a hot topic in many Christian circles today, giving rise to much speculation of when it will occur and the order in which certain expected events will happen. One reader expressed a desire to know more about Fox's view of these matters. The following is not an exhaustive listing of all the material available.

"Vol. ?? refers to a designated volume of the Works of George Fox.  Nickalls is the editor of an edition of Fox's Journal. The material from Vol. III is…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 9thMo. 18, 2016 at 2:30 — 2 Comments

About The Antipathy Between Prophecy and Religion

Lewis Benson's The Antipathy Between Prophecy and Religion is rich, too rich to be properly summarized in a short blog post. In the following distillation, much of value has been passed over. I can't gather the essence of this work into a few short, concise paragraphs. It cries out to be…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 9thMo. 18, 2016 at 2:08 — 4 Comments

Faith or Belief: What is the Difference

Belief is a component of faith. But by its nature, belief is secondary. To have any validity, it must be connected to the right thing. George Fox put it this way:

And Christ saith, verily I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, but is past from death to life.' John v. 24.

Now this is and was their belief in the light, that were the children of the light, and born of God,…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 7thMo. 25, 2016 at 11:30 — 2 Comments

Causes or Kingdom

I have run into a number of issues and causes over the years put forth as being things "we should be involved in." I have first-hand experience of being "involved in" a number of such worthy causes. But it is not the worthy causes that form the foundation of righteousness.

Many will come to me on that day saying, "Lord, Lord, did we not..." [and there follows a list of worthy issues and causes]. I will say to them, "Depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never knew…
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Added by Ellis Hein on 4thMo. 11, 2016 at 11:30 — 2 Comments

All Things Come By or Through Nature? This Month's Fox Reading and Discussion Call

Saturday, during our reading and discussion of Fox's Journal (See Works of Fox, Vol. 1, pp. 83-86)  an opening began growing in my mind concerning Fox's temptation.

"All things come by nature," said the tempter. And, as is usually the case, the lie is coated with enough "fact" to make it easy to swallow the poison. 

First of all we need to establish a working definition of what nature is. My definition, that which was opened to me, is nature is the vehicle by which God works.…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 3rdMo. 15, 2016 at 12:50 — 1 Comment

1-9-2016 Fox Reading Conference Call

For information on joining the monthly, Saturday, Fox Reading Conference Calls, watch for the monthly listing at http://nffquaker.org/events.



On the 1-9-2016 conference call we read and considered text from The Works of Fox, 1831, pp-75-77. (Note: this material is also available in C.D. format from www.foundationpublicationsnffusa.org/.) We covered such topics…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 1stMo. 12, 2016 at 14:21 — No Comments

Pretension

A group of us were considering Fox's epistle 24, which contains the following passage:

And so, our unity and fellowship with vain man are lost, and all his evil ways are now turned into enmity; and all his profession is now found to be deceit, and in all his fairest pretences lodgeth cruelty; and the bottom and ground of all his knowledge of God and Christ is found sandy, and cannot endure the tempest. For being brought off from that foundation, and having suffered the loss…
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Added by Ellis Hein on 12thMo. 27, 2015 at 1:00 — 1 Comment

Our Discussion of Vol. 1 of the Works of Fox

A small number of us gathered by conference call to read and discuss the Works of Fox, beginning with Vol. 1. So this time we began with Fox's account of his early years of how the Lord prepared and fitted him for the work to which he was called. We read as far as Fox's account of the deep trouble and despair he had to undergo before coming to that opening of "There is one, even Christ Jesus, that can speak to thy condition...

Our discussion centered on the universality of the human…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 11thMo. 15, 2015 at 14:10 — 2 Comments

In Jesus' Name

If you listen to the language of professing Christians, a recurring phrase you will hear is "In Jesus' name," "In Christ's name," "In his name," or some other variant. I am not sure what they mean by the phrase, neither am I sure if they understand what those words really mean.

To do something or request something in Jesus' name is to act under his authority. "Have you been authorized by Jesus to act in his stead?" I have often wondered. From my perspective, I would have to conclude…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 10thMo. 13, 2015 at 23:17 — 10 Comments

The Good News: part 4

Continued from part 3. This is the final installment

3 A Question of Occupation

What are you doing?

The Exodus 19 passage quoted above gives voice to the concept of the kingdom of God that was fundamental to the foundation of Israel. But the prophets spoke of a life in the Kingdom of God that would transcend the Mosaic law. Moses pointed to the prophet whom God would raise up, into whose mouth He would put His words. This prophet would speak God’s word to the…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 7thMo. 19, 2015 at 11:08 — 1 Comment

The Good News: part 3

The Good News: part 3

….Continued from part 2....

The Good News, the real Good News, is all good news. There is no dualism involved. Jesus began his earthly ministry announcing “repent, the Kingdom of God is at hand.” He continues his earthly ministry proclaiming “repent, the Kingdom of God is at hand.” “So,” you may ask, “when do we get to see that Kingdom come? It has been 2,000 years since Jesus announced that it was at hand. Shouldn’t it have arrived by now? ” The Kingdom…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 7thMo. 18, 2015 at 10:30 — No Comments

The Good News: part 2

...Continued from part 1....

Look at the contrast between what modern evangelists and preachers declare as the gospel and the message proclaimed by George Fox and the early Quakers:

...therefore, fear the Lord, let him be your fear and dread, and turn to the light, which Christ the Son hath enlightened you withal, and believe in Christ, the saviour of the world, the offering for the sin of the whole world, that you might have life in him, and through him, and come to…
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Added by Ellis Hein on 7thMo. 17, 2015 at 11:32 — No Comments

The Good News: part 1

Note: the following four posts are taken from the my presentation at the 2015 gathering, which has been broken at logical break points into a series of smaller sections.

1 Introduction

All churches claim to be preaching the gospel. We can either accept that as a given and live with the confusion of disparate messages or we can come to some yardstick that is able to distinguish the true gospel from the false. In this session I want to hold before us such a…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 7thMo. 16, 2015 at 12:03 — No Comments

Fox and Holy Spirit Christianity, Part 3 of 3

So, are we doing anything more than playing semantics? What difference of understanding is to be gained by looking at things from one point of view or the other? 



Consider Epistle XXXII in Vol. VII of the Works of Fox, "When your minds go forth from the pure spirit of God and are drawn out from it, there the image of God comes to be lost, in those whose mind goes out from the pure to lust after that which is in the fall, which may appear like truth in the notion..."



Make…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 4thMo. 23, 2015 at 12:00 — 2 Comments

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