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The Nature of the True Church: part two

The main challenge to this vision of a holy church is the church’s own sinfulness...Luther’s understanding of the church as simul justus et peccatore, or “simultaneously justified and a sinner,” is helpful for describing the paradox of the church’s “now and not yet” struggle with sin. Luther’s perspective affirms the reality of the sin of the church, yet also allows that God’s sanctification is in fact at work and progressively enacting real change in the hearts, minds, and actions…
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Added by Ellis Hein on 9thMo. 11, 2017 at 12:13 — 4 Comments

The Nature of the True Church: part one

The christians were called a "city set on a hill, the light of the world, and the salt of the earth;" but when they forsook the power of God, and their faith stood in words and men, and not in the power; then their walls fell down, though the power in itself stood; and they lost their hill, their saltness, and their shining. (Works of Fox, Vol. II, p.172)
...[Jesus] began asking His disciples, saying, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" And they…
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Added by Ellis Hein on 9thMo. 8, 2017 at 2:41 — No Comments

Spirituality: What Does That Mean?

[Note: This blog post first appeared on my  website, This Was The True Light and is reblogged here. If you are not a member of the New Foundation Fellowship website and would like to leave a comment, you can do so on my website.]

I recently read a comment on another blog wherein the commentator maintained that Quakers are overly-spiritual, to put it nicely.…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 7thMo. 31, 2017 at 11:49 — No Comments

The New Righteousness: Lewis Benson's Moorestown Lecture No. 7

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness...

Thus begins one of the beatitudes from the Sermon on the Mount, and I suspect that most people can complete the sentence. While this is proclaimed throughout Christendom, seldom do you encounter any indication of how the "...for you shall be filled" portion is to come about. For the most part, it has become "one of those things that can't be done in this lifetime." There is more time and space…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 7thMo. 17, 2017 at 3:00 — 1 Comment

The Belief that Overcomes the World

Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God, and every one who loves the parent loves the child. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that overcomes the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcomes the world, but he that believes…
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Added by Ellis Hein on 6thMo. 10, 2017 at 10:50 — 2 Comments

True Christians: How Do You Know Them?

There is an interesting and ongoing conversation/debate going on concerning a post I made on QuakerQuaker. If you wish to see this you can go to http://www.quakerquaker.org/profiles/blogs/true-christians-how-do-you-know-them?xg_source=activity . The title of the post is the same as the title of this post. The full text of the excerpt that I put up on…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 5thMo. 21, 2017 at 14:21 — No Comments

The New Church Order

When George Fox emerged on the scene, something new appeared in Christendom. The message Fox was commanded to preach laid an unheard of foundation for one’s life in God. So unheard of that it was often labeled “the Quaker’s new gospel.” The scriptures record the voice of God saying on the Mount of Transfiguration, “This is my son, my chosen one. Hear him.” Fox maintained by argument and convincing demonstration that the builders of the churches of his day began by rejecting God’s cornerstone…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 3rdMo. 11, 2017 at 12:53 — No Comments

Does The Rooster Crow In Vain?

But Peter answered and said to Him, "Even though all may fall away because of You, I will never fall away." Jesus said to him, "Truly I say to you that this very night, before a cock crows, you shall deny Me three times." Peter said to Him, "Even if I must die with You, I will not deny You." (Matt. 26:33-35)

Now Peter was sitting outside in the courtyard, and a certain servant-girl came to him and said, "You too were with Jesus the Galilean." But he denied it…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 2ndMo. 26, 2017 at 20:32 — 2 Comments

The Relation of Fox's Message to the Bible

A common phrase you may see describing a particular denomination or church is, “Bible based.” But the Biblical basis of Fox’s message was not a surface adherence to certain passages, but a comprehensive alignment with God’s purpose throughout history.

Fox lived in a period that was Biblically literate and highly religious. Since Fox rejected all the various forms of Christianity of his day, an appropriate question might be, “Was Fox a Christian?” Lewis Benson’s lecture no. 3,…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 12thMo. 30, 2016 at 4:00 — 4 Comments

Time To Plow

"For God hath raised up his own seed in his saints, which seed, Christ, is but one in all....So in that, which is raised up in us, which trampleth upon the earthly, dark power, have we unity with God, and fellowship with his son, and unity one with another.... And so, our unity and fellowship with vain man are lost, and all his evil ways are now turned into enmity; and all his profession is now found to be deceit, and in all his fairest pretences lodgeth cruelty; and the bottom and ground of… Continue

Added by Ellis Hein on 11thMo. 28, 2016 at 13:30 — 1 Comment

The Place of George Fox in Christian History: a review of Lewis Benson's first of ten Moorestown Lectures

It would seem reasonable to suppose that, nearly three centuries after the death of George Fox, there would be some measure of consensus among church historians concerning the place he should be assigned in Christian history. But this is not the case. They all agree that he has an assured place in history, but there is an astonishing variety of theories purporting to tell us exactly what that place is.…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 10thMo. 13, 2016 at 13:00 — 2 Comments

Fox and the Second Coming Part 2

There are many ways which this could be continued. But I think that with the previous post and with the material presented below, it is sufficient to get the direction of Fox's insights on what Christendom refers to as the "second coming of Christ."

I searched through the 8 volumes and found only one reference to "second coming" and that was a phrase used by a detractor. See below. Fox did not use that term, at least in the language we have recorded in the 8 volumes or in That Thy…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 9thMo. 18, 2016 at 13:00 — 1 Comment

Fox and the Second Coming

The "Second Coming" is a hot topic in many Christian circles today, giving rise to much speculation of when it will occur and the order in which certain expected events will happen. One reader expressed a desire to know more about Fox's view of these matters. The following is not an exhaustive listing of all the material available.

"Vol. ?? refers to a designated volume of the Works of George Fox.  Nickalls is the editor of an edition of Fox's Journal. The material from Vol. III is…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 9thMo. 18, 2016 at 2:30 — 2 Comments

About The Antipathy Between Prophecy and Religion

Lewis Benson's The Antipathy Between Prophecy and Religion is rich, too rich to be properly summarized in a short blog post. In the following distillation, much of value has been passed over. I can't gather the essence of this work into a few short, concise paragraphs. It cries out to be…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 9thMo. 18, 2016 at 2:08 — 4 Comments

Faith or Belief: What is the Difference

Belief is a component of faith. But by its nature, belief is secondary. To have any validity, it must be connected to the right thing. George Fox put it this way:

And Christ saith, verily I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, but is past from death to life.' John v. 24.

Now this is and was their belief in the light, that were the children of the light, and born of God,…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 7thMo. 25, 2016 at 11:30 — 2 Comments

Causes or Kingdom

I have run into a number of issues and causes over the years put forth as being things "we should be involved in." I have first-hand experience of being "involved in" a number of such worthy causes. But it is not the worthy causes that form the foundation of righteousness.

Many will come to me on that day saying, "Lord, Lord, did we not..." [and there follows a list of worthy issues and causes]. I will say to them, "Depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never knew…
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Added by Ellis Hein on 4thMo. 11, 2016 at 11:30 — 2 Comments

All Things Come By or Through Nature? This Month's Fox Reading and Discussion Call

Saturday, during our reading and discussion of Fox's Journal (See Works of Fox, Vol. 1, pp. 83-86)  an opening began growing in my mind concerning Fox's temptation.

"All things come by nature," said the tempter. And, as is usually the case, the lie is coated with enough "fact" to make it easy to swallow the poison. 

First of all we need to establish a working definition of what nature is. My definition, that which was opened to me, is nature is the vehicle by which God works.…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 3rdMo. 15, 2016 at 12:50 — 1 Comment

1-9-2016 Fox Reading Conference Call

For information on joining the monthly, Saturday, Fox Reading Conference Calls, watch for the monthly listing at http://nffquaker.org/events.



On the 1-9-2016 conference call we read and considered text from The Works of Fox, 1831, pp-75-77. (Note: this material is also available in C.D. format from www.foundationpublicationsnffusa.org/.) We covered such topics…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 1stMo. 12, 2016 at 14:21 — No Comments

Pretension

A group of us were considering Fox's epistle 24, which contains the following passage:

And so, our unity and fellowship with vain man are lost, and all his evil ways are now turned into enmity; and all his profession is now found to be deceit, and in all his fairest pretences lodgeth cruelty; and the bottom and ground of all his knowledge of God and Christ is found sandy, and cannot endure the tempest. For being brought off from that foundation, and having suffered the loss…
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Added by Ellis Hein on 12thMo. 27, 2015 at 1:00 — 1 Comment

Our Discussion of Vol. 1 of the Works of Fox

A small number of us gathered by conference call to read and discuss the Works of Fox, beginning with Vol. 1. So this time we began with Fox's account of his early years of how the Lord prepared and fitted him for the work to which he was called. We read as far as Fox's account of the deep trouble and despair he had to undergo before coming to that opening of "There is one, even Christ Jesus, that can speak to thy condition...

Our discussion centered on the universality of the human…

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Added by Ellis Hein on 11thMo. 15, 2015 at 14:10 — 2 Comments

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