"Thank you John and I pray that you get the help you need at present. You should not have to do heavy lifting. Moving is bad enough.
Thank you also Ellis for the writings by Lewis Benson which I am working though but obviously will take a bit of…"
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Brenda Redshaw commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
John Jeremiah Edminster commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Thank you both for continuing this discussion, Ellis and Brenda. I just now saw that there was a little "page 2" tab at the bottom of the first discussion page that allowed me to access this new material.
I have to confess myself deeply…"
Ellis Hein commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Brenda, I have sent you a number of files containing Lewis Benson's writings. I have done this for the purpose to enable you to make a comparison between what Lewis had to say about being free of sin and what George Fox had to say. Your…"
Brenda Redshaw commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"I own 'That of God in Every Man', 'The truth is Christ' and of course the items in Resources.
It would be helpful Ellis if you could provide a critique of holiness teachings by Benson, that is to say, a critique of 'second…"
Brenda Redshaw commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"I own 'That of God in Every Man', 'The truth is Christ' and of course the items in Resources."
Brenda Redshaw commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Hi Ellis
Thank you for your offer of resources. I have to say that Lewis Benson draws a false dichotomy between Pentecostals and ‘Christ’ centred’ believers as he has left out Holiness believers, who would agree with him about…"
Ellis Hein commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Brenda, I can't promise to not disagree with your statement regarding Lewis' teaching about perfection. However I would be interested to see your justification for your claim that Lewis did not preach the same gospel as Fox, that a…"
Brenda Redshaw commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"John I have a question for you. Do you agree with David that mystics from other religions ie Buddhist etc are on the same path? Those that deny the divinity of Jesus Christ?"
Brenda Redshaw commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"OK Ellis but I don't want to get into another debate with you after we have disagreed so much previously and it ends with you telling me I am wrong.
John, that was an excellent method of David's, to let scripture just speak for itself. I…"
Ellis Hein commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Brenda, you can discuss this here if you wish."
Brenda Redshaw commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Hello John I will email you unless Ellis comes on to say continue due to failed past attempts from myself to discuss it. It is a subject which causes a great wave of protest as in Fox's day. It is why he was hated."
John Jeremiah Edminster commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"I'll definitely want to discuss this further. If you think what you have to say would be of general interest to the NFF, I'd welcome your continuing this conversation here, Brenda, but if you'd feel freer, or less "on…"
Brenda Redshaw commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"You are very welcome John. I am happy to discuss this further if you wish."
John Jeremiah Edminster commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Wow! I never realized that! Thank you, Brenda!"
Ellis Hein commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Shawn and John,
This morning I was reading from New Foundation Publication #1 What Did George Fox Teach About Christ. I ran across the following statement. "This gospel that Fox preached is the answer to all who are asking the…"
John Jeremiah Edminster commented on John Jeremiah Edminster's blog post David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
"Thank you, Shawn, for telling us about Ian Thomas and the Torchbearers International! It was happy news to me. I feel rather insular, living among Quakers and not having much fellowship with followers of Christ in other denominations -- but the Lord…"
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David Johnson's 6/23/2019 talk at West Richmond Friends Church, and why I called it "intense"
MIGHT WE BECOME AS OBEDIENT AS JESUS?
On First Day, 6/24/2019, I was privileged to be among the seventeen Friends who heard Australian Friend David Johnson (_A Quaker Prayer Life_, Inner Light Books, 2013; _Jesus, Christ and Servant of God_, Inner Light Books, 2017) lead an intense after-meeting discussion, at West Richmond (IN) Friends Meeting, on what the Gospel of John has to say about the relation of Jesus Christ to God, His _Abba_.
Friend David had us go around the room,…
ContinuePosted on 8thMo. 2, 2019 at 15:29 — 17 Comments
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- At 7:23 on 5thMo. 27, 2011,
Allistair Lomax said…
- Welcome John!
- At 23:38 on 5thMo. 3, 2018,
Susan R Davis said…
Hello John! I've just joined, too, and I saw that you live in Richmond, Indiana. That's where I live also. Welcome to the site!
- At 0:02 on 5thMo. 4, 2018,
John Jeremiah Edminster said…
I'm so glad to meet a NFF member who also lives in Richmond! Susan, you may be the catalyst for my getting more involved in the NFF. I'm just now finishing up my last schoolwork for the spring term - I'm an M. Div. student at Earlham School of Religion, hoping to graduate a year from now, now embarking on a ministry of promoting wider knowledge of the wealth of early Quaker resources available on the internet, and of continuing to build the Quaker Bible Index, begun by Esther Greenleaf Mürer in the 1980s and now under my custody.
I'm planning to make an eight-day silent retreat from 5/6 to 5/14, and then be back in touch with people, starting with my wife Elizabeth and my two adult children in New York. I'd love to get together with you soon after! You can contact me at john.edminster@gmail.com.
- At 2:25 on 5thMo. 7, 2018,
Yes, I would very much like to meet you, too. Have a good trip! My email is shasta4737@aol.com -- it's the best way to contact me. By the way, my cousin Jon Berry attends ESR. Do you know him?
- At 12:20 on 8thMo. 1, 2019,
Rebecca Hein said…
John, David Johnson of Australia mentioned he spent a very good week with you at Richmond. Is there anything from that visit you would like to share with us?
- At 12:23 on 8thMo. 1, 2019,
Ellis Hein said…
Sorry, that comment was supposed to be from me rather than from Becky.
- At 15:33 on 8thMo. 1, 2019,
MIGHT WE BECOME AS OBEDIENT AS JESUS?
On 6/23/2019 I was privileged to be among the seventeen Friends who heard Australian Friend David Johnson (_A Quaker Prayer Life_, Inner Light Books, 2013; _Jesus, Christ and Servant of God_, Inner Light Books, 2017) lead an intense after-meeting discussion, at West Richmond (IN) Friends Meeting, on what the Gospel of John has to say about the relation of Jesus Christ to God, His _Abba_.
Friend David had us go around the room, each reading one of the following verses:
John 4:34
John 5:19
John 5:30
John 6:38
John 7:15-16
John 8:26-28
John 14:10
John 14:23-24
John 15:10The picture that emerged was of Jesus the Man explaining His astonishing ability to do divine works as being rooted in His “having no will but to do the will of Him Who sent Me” (John 6:38), and “to finish His work” (John 4:34). It was clear that, during His years of ministry, Jesus was all the while training, encouraging, and empowering His disciples to act in a similar spirit of unwavering obedience to the divine will. After Jesus’ departure from the earth, David added, the early Church understood this unity with God’s will to be the supreme criterion of its faithfulness. “Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God as something to be exploited, but emptied himself, taking the form of a slave,” exhorted Paul in Philippians 2:5-7 NRSV. The “anointing” that gave members of the early Church this “mind that was in Christ Jesus” empowered them to “abide in the Son and in the Father” (1 John 2:20-24).
It was the great accomplishment of early Friends that they recovered this key understanding of the early Church and found the living Christ empowering then to live up to it.
The question that David bade us consider as we parted, at the end of the hour, was this: _Can I accept the possibility of my being as obedient in all things as was Jesus?_
- At 2:25 on 8thMo. 2, 2019,
John, you characterize the discussion at West Richmond Friends Meeting as "intense." Was that because of controversy? because of the depth of the discussion? or what?
- At 18:55 on 9thMo. 18, 2019,
Rhonda Fuller said…
Hello, John Jeremiah Edminster. It has been a long time since I have spoken in NFF Community. Your post I enjoyed. It was in the 8th month I was reading the Book of John myself. I read Scripture morning and evening, evening being New Testament. I pray the Holy Ghost to guide me and open to me what I am capable of understanding before I read. I'll tell you that I have read the Book of John at least three other times, but not with my prayer. I used to pray that my reading would be profitable; that was like a secular song, nothing of value. When I read Scripture now, the Holy Spirit opens amazing things to me, and one of them was from 8th month reading. I ,too, was aware of Jesus expressing his love repeatedly to the Father in doing His will. And my reaction was similar to yours: I could in no way not do God's will.
Thank you very much for your post. Rhonda Fuller
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