"Here are two conundrums that you have proposed in your comment.
Consider again the two statements in question
1. ″Then the Lord let me see why there was none upon the earth that could speak to my condition, namely, that I might…"
"Fox admitted that he was not righteous even though previously he thought that he was when he claimed: "For all are concluded under sin, and shut up in unbelief, as I had been; that Jesus Christ might have the pre-eminence who enlightens, and…"
"Fox dictated the whole of his Journal in the later years of his life. His judgment was just as sound concerning his early years as it was concerning his later years. If one is not to believe Fox’s assessment of his condition during his time of…"
"Ellis, what Fox talks about during his time of wandering, is very common in a tradition that stretches back to scripture. It is a process whereby the person, is increasingly convicted of their inward state, though previously they were unaware of the…"
"How far from the original must an ″oral tradition″ become before it can no longer be attributed to Fox?
Now, concerning the rest of what you write. Here, again, you are distorting what Fox had to say. He does not say that at eleven he…"
"It does not sound like George however, an oral tradition will not remain word for word, not in our culture anyway which has had the written word for so long.
He was brought up in a religious home and in this way knew right from wrong, and as many…"
"The quote from Holiness and High Country is neither in the style of nor the language of Fox. Neither does it use Fox's terminology. I can't see it originating with him.
If one reads the early pages of Vol. 1 of Fox's works, from page…"
"It may be an oral saying passed down but regardless, it is describing what he already wrote about when he went on his travels, seeking someone who could speak to his condition, that is, of great unrest and distress within, and which is the subject…"
"This quote from Holiness and high Country, p. 180 is not from George Fox, even though the author ascribes it to him. I suggest you check sources before you believe such things. These last two comments of yours are prime examples of trying to impose…"
"It seems George Fox like the man in Romans 7 found a gap between his vision of moral truth and the ability to do it:
"I knew Jesus, and He was very precious to my soul; but I found something within me that would not keep sweet and patient and…"
"The gap between the vision of moral truth and the power to do it is the bugbear of Protestant ethics, but it istotally absent from the teaching of Fox, Penn and Pening-ton."
Well yes of course because they were…"
"Brenda, the point of the discussion is whether or not one can be transformed by some other means than by hearing and following the voice of Christ. I bring you back to your statement: "Fox is speaking of three states that he believers can reach…"
"George Fox taught the doctrine of entire sanctification:-
“At last they asked me whether I was sanctified. I said “Sanctified? Yes, for I was in the Paradise of God” They said had I no sin “Sin?” said I “Christ…"
"Even here you can't get away from the necessity of hearing and obeying the voice of Christ."
Sorry my fault, I have been unclear. It is impossible to be in the kingdom if we are not hearing Christ speak to us personally…"
"The epistle from Fox:
‘ALL my dear friends in the noble seed of God, who have known hispower, life, and presence among you, let it be your joy to hear or seethe springs of life break forth in any; through which ye have all unityin the same,…"
"You can't divorce the cross of Christ, the power of God, from faithfully hearing and obeying his voice, which is what believing in the light and becoming children of the light is all about. You need to consider the whole of the text and not…"