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Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Ellis, it would be helpful if you could say how Fox and the early Friends interpreted Romans 7. Calvinists followed Augustine saying that it is the normal Christian experience but Wesleyans, whom I am discussing it with, say it is a man who was an…"
17 hours ago
Ellis Hein commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Here again, you are distorting what Fox had to say. You are imposing some external standard of judgment upon Fox in saying  If Fox had committed sin in these instances, he would have said so, the light of Christ would have reproved him for it.…"
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Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Conundrum (a) This statement is not a conundrum to me, as obviusly Fox was converted at an early age, because he says that he was taught to be righteous inwardly. He knew Christ. It was the same for Paul who said Romans 7 22 For I delight in…"
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Ellis Hein commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Here are two conundrums that you have proposed in your comment. Conundrum (a): Consider again the two statements in question 1. ″Then the Lord let me see why there was none upon the earth that could speak to my condition, namely, that I might…"
Sixthday
Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Fox admitted that he was not righteous even though previously he thought that he was when he claimed: "For all are concluded under sin, and shut up in unbelief, as I had been; that Jesus Christ might have the pre-eminence who enlightens, and…"
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Ellis Hein commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Fox dictated the whole of his Journal in the later years of his life. His judgment was just as sound concerning his early years as it was concerning his later years. If one is not to believe Fox’s assessment of his condition during his time of…"
1stMo 17
Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Ellis, what Fox talks about during his time of wandering, is very common in a tradition that stretches back to scripture. It is a process whereby the person, is increasingly convicted of their inward state, though previously they were unaware of the…"
1stMo 16
Ellis Hein commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"How far from the original must an ″oral tradition″ become before it can no longer be attributed to Fox? Now, concerning the rest of what you write. Here, again, you are distorting what Fox had to say. He does not say that at eleven he…"
1stMo 15
Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"It does not sound like George however, an oral tradition will not remain word for word, not in our culture anyway which has had the written word for so long. He was brought up in a religious home and in this way knew right from wrong, and as many…"
1stMo 15
Ellis Hein commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"The quote from Holiness and High Country is neither in the style of nor the language of Fox. Neither does it use Fox's terminology. I can't see it originating with him. If one reads the early pages of Vol. 1 of Fox's works, from page…"
1stMo 14
Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"It may be an oral saying passed down but regardless, it is describing what he already wrote about when he went on his travels, seeking someone who could speak to his condition, that is, of great unrest and distress within, and which is the subject…"
1stMo 13
Ellis Hein commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"This quote from Holiness and high Country, p. 180 is not from George Fox, even though the author ascribes it to him. I suggest you check sources before you believe such things. These last two comments of yours are prime examples of trying to impose…"
1stMo 12
Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"It seems George Fox like the man in Romans 7 found a gap between his vision of moral truth and the ability to do it: "I knew Jesus, and He was very precious to my soul; but I found something within me that would not keep sweet and patient and…"
1stMo 11
Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Dear Ellis, You wrote: "The gap between the vision of moral truth and the power to do it is the bugbear of Protestant ethics, but it istotally absent from the teaching of Fox, Penn and Pening-ton." Well yes of course because they were…"
1stMo 11
Ellis Hein commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"Brenda, the point of the discussion is whether or not one can be transformed by some other means than by hearing and following the voice of Christ. I bring you back to your statement: "Fox is speaking of three states that he believers can reach…"
1stMo 9
Brenda Redshaw commented on Brenda Redshaw's blog post John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.
"George Fox taught the doctrine of entire sanctification:- “At last they asked me whether I was sanctified. I said “Sanctified? Yes, for I was in the Paradise of God” They said had I no sin “Sin?” said I “Christ…"
1stMo 9

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John Wesley and the Holiness Movement.

Hello long time ago friends,

First I have a question. Is there a better recordng than the one I found here of Lewis Benson speaking on:

The Gospel Preached by John Wesley and its Echoes in Modern Christianity ?

I was very…

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