Comments - The New Way - New Foundation Fellowship2024-03-28T19:53:55Zhttp://nffquaker.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=6286598%3ABlogPost%3A35177&xn_auth=noMan makes it very complicated…tag:nffquaker.org,2018-04-22:6286598:Comment:350832018-04-22T01:45:45.211ZBrenda Redshawhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/BrendaRedshaw
<p>Man makes it very complicated, but it is really very simple. God will come and dwell in us, in the New Covenant Temple, and make us sons of God, only if we allow Him to cleanse it first. We cannot have 'bits of Him'. It is all or nothing - He will not share His dwelling with lesser gods.</p>
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<p>If we believe that we cannot stop sinning or in other words, have areas where we are not in His holy will, then we will not and will not be clean, but if we accept the need of the cleansing…</p>
<p>Man makes it very complicated, but it is really very simple. God will come and dwell in us, in the New Covenant Temple, and make us sons of God, only if we allow Him to cleanse it first. We cannot have 'bits of Him'. It is all or nothing - He will not share His dwelling with lesser gods.</p>
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<p>If we believe that we cannot stop sinning or in other words, have areas where we are not in His holy will, then we will not and will not be clean, but if we accept the need of the cleansing and the need for the fire to fall, and put all of our trust in Christ as absolute Lord and Saviour, and see ourselves for what we are - weak and needy, we are ready to accept what the early Quakers had and what is missing today - the full baptism.</p> The early Quakers became sons…tag:nffquaker.org,2018-04-12:6286598:Comment:350812018-04-12T14:23:17.373ZPatricia Dallmannhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/PatriciaDallmann
<p>The early Quakers became sons of God in that they received the spirit of Christ (Jn.1:12), which cast out all other spirits, as Christ's spirit is more powerful than any other spirit. I think of the spirit of Cain who became murderous toward his brother when his gift was not accepted, as his brother's gift was, or Korah who accused and rebelled. It is all too common for us to capitulate to these other spirits and behave in ways similar to these figures in the O.T., but the Lord is denied in…</p>
<p>The early Quakers became sons of God in that they received the spirit of Christ (Jn.1:12), which cast out all other spirits, as Christ's spirit is more powerful than any other spirit. I think of the spirit of Cain who became murderous toward his brother when his gift was not accepted, as his brother's gift was, or Korah who accused and rebelled. It is all too common for us to capitulate to these other spirits and behave in ways similar to these figures in the O.T., but the Lord is denied in doing so and the wrong spirit received. The Lord whose spirit is more powerful can overcome all lesser powers, and we also, through His love alone. It is this knowledge that we, as gospel ministers, are to exemplify and teach.</p> I am always struck by the rel…tag:nffquaker.org,2018-04-12:6286598:Comment:350792018-04-12T12:58:22.197ZEllis Heinhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/EllisHein
<p>I am always struck by the relevance of the latter part of Isaiah 54 and the early portion of 55. Isaiah 54 speaks of "all your sons will be taught by the Lord" and this we have seen in the early Quakers. Chapter 55 then gets to our day:</p>
<blockquote>Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for…</blockquote>
<p>I am always struck by the relevance of the latter part of Isaiah 54 and the early portion of 55. Isaiah 54 speaks of "all your sons will be taught by the Lord" and this we have seen in the early Quakers. Chapter 55 then gets to our day:</p>
<blockquote>Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.</blockquote> Thanks, Allistair. As time pa…tag:nffquaker.org,2018-04-12:6286598:Comment:350772018-04-12T11:57:56.192ZPatricia Dallmannhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/PatriciaDallmann
<p>Thanks, Allistair. As time passes, more and more Quakers are noticing and admitting that their meetings lack depth and life. Some have written about needing a new idea to restore Quakerism, something more pertinent to present-day needs. The world operates by shuttling one novelty after another before us in order to entice, captivate, and engage. But the faith of early Quakers is on an entirely different plane, the divine nature supplanting all human propensities. How long will Quakers pursue…</p>
<p>Thanks, Allistair. As time passes, more and more Quakers are noticing and admitting that their meetings lack depth and life. Some have written about needing a new idea to restore Quakerism, something more pertinent to present-day needs. The world operates by shuttling one novelty after another before us in order to entice, captivate, and engage. But the faith of early Quakers is on an entirely different plane, the divine nature supplanting all human propensities. How long will Quakers pursue an unfit projection to nowhere? How long will Quakers reject the core wisdom of our faith, as it was known and taught by gospel ministers, and is ever ready to be found within. It's an old problem, with an older, eternal solution. </p> Thanks Pat, I appreciated wha…tag:nffquaker.org,2018-04-08:6286598:Comment:349742018-04-08T10:15:35.243ZAllistair Lomaxhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/1q0exj1yh6e79
<p>Thanks Pat, I appreciated what you said here.</p>
<p>Thanks Pat, I appreciated what you said here.</p>