Comments - Did the Apostle Paul believe Jesus was the Prophet-like-Moses? And does it matter? Post 10, II Corinthians 12 - New Foundation Fellowship2024-03-29T12:21:19Zhttp://nffquaker.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=6286598%3ABlogPost%3A33009&xn_auth=noAfter I wrote this post, the…tag:nffquaker.org,2017-11-27:6286598:Comment:344092017-11-27T02:13:44.243ZDan Davenporthttp://nffquaker.org/profile/DanDavenport
<p>After I wrote this post, the Lord brought this short epistle of George Fox wrote to my attention:</p>
<p>Works of George Fox, Vol 1, pp 238 and 239. {1655}</p>
<p>…I wrote also a short epistle to Friends, as an encouragement to them in their several exercises.</p>
<p>MY DEAR FRIENDS,</p>
<p>In the power of the everlasting God which comprehends the power of darkness and all temptations, and that which comes out of it, in this power of God dwell. This will bring and keep you to the word in…</p>
<p>After I wrote this post, the Lord brought this short epistle of George Fox wrote to my attention:</p>
<p>Works of George Fox, Vol 1, pp 238 and 239. {1655}</p>
<p>…I wrote also a short epistle to Friends, as an encouragement to them in their several exercises.</p>
<p>MY DEAR FRIENDS,</p>
<p>In the power of the everlasting God which comprehends the power of darkness and all temptations, and that which comes out of it, in this power of God dwell. This will bring and keep you to the word in the beginning; it will keep you up to the life, to feed thereupon, in which you are over the power of darkness, and in which you will feel dominion and life. And that will let you see before the tempter was and over him, into which the tempter cannot come; for the power and truth he is out of. Therefore in that life dwell, in which you will know dominion. Let your faith be in the power over the weakness and temptations; look not at them; but in the light and power of God, look at the Lord’s strength, which will be made perfect in your weakest state. So in all temptations look at the grace of God to bring your salvation, which is your teacher to teach you; for when you look or hearken to the temptations, you go from your teacher, the grace of God; and so are darkened in going from that teacher which should bring your salvation, the grace of God, which is sufficient in all temptations to lead out of them and to keep over them. </p>
<p> G.F.</p>
<p></p> I'm not a scholar, either, Da…tag:nffquaker.org,2017-08-23:6286598:Comment:332012017-08-23T00:28:49.281ZRhonda Fullerhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/RhondaFuller
<p>I'm not a scholar, either, Dan, though I used to like to be one, but like Jacob, I was fake. My background didn't support being a scholar, though I've always been a thinker. That even was fake until I came to Christ; even so, I spent a lot of years in the wilderness before crossing to the Promised Land. When I say there are only two voices we hear, it's not my thinking that got me to that knowledge.</p>
<p>You wrote a beautiful witness. Beautiful isn't an appropriate adjective for a man, so…</p>
<p>I'm not a scholar, either, Dan, though I used to like to be one, but like Jacob, I was fake. My background didn't support being a scholar, though I've always been a thinker. That even was fake until I came to Christ; even so, I spent a lot of years in the wilderness before crossing to the Promised Land. When I say there are only two voices we hear, it's not my thinking that got me to that knowledge.</p>
<p>You wrote a beautiful witness. Beautiful isn't an appropriate adjective for a man, so let me substitute powerful. But I am still a woman and beautiful is powerful, albeit in a different way. Jesus is both beautiful and powerful in grace. He favored you in that he gave you an ear to hear.</p>
<p>I'm blessed in that I didn't know any religion prior to coming to God's pure religion--Quaker religion. George Fox is the only pastor I've known. I say this because I took George Fox at his word when I first read him. So in that regard I didn't have to clear any potential influencing clutter. When I finally crossed into the kingdom and realized any rebuke I experienced was Jesus teaching me, the pedal accelerated. More is given to me than I can ever imagine or express. But I will express something he gave me only recently.</p>
<p>I'm aging, my body is changing. We all know the changing happens but we can't know exactly how that changing will be. My mind doesn't function as well as it used even a year ago. Words won't come quickly in conversation, which makes me reticent to talk with people. The spelling of many words frustrates me because I can't recall them visually or phonetically. I feared Alzheimer so had a test (about the 4th hour I asked if the test was once in a lifetime, as it was so exhausting and frustrating). They told me no, I didn't have Alzheimer, but a cardio-vascular problem could be the source of my issues. Then two weeks ago my left index finger became inflamed and hurting. When the inflammation quieted I saw a ball-like bulging of that knuckle when I clenched my fist (at least I can still clench it). Both my grandmothers had arthritis but my maternal grandmother had rheumatoid. Oh, my goodness, will my hands be curled and ugly like hers, I wondered?</p>
<p>In my anxiety I went to the only one I knew could comfort me. I prayed what I didn't want to have happen, but I also prayed that whatever infirmities I had to face I would face them gladly knowing that he would give me the strength to do so. He let me see whatever the body looked like didn't matter, whatever other people thought of me didn't matter. Only he and his love for me mattered. Because corruption of the body he said is part of the fall. But don't be concerned about the corruption. Don't try to prevent it. If you try to maintain your body you'll lose it and yourself.</p>
<p>With joy and tears he brought me to comfort and peace. I think often of what he said about corruption being part of the fall. It's nothing new. One can read and read it or hear it multiple times, but until the Lord opens it to one, it holds no sway.</p>
<p>I think you and I are in union with Christ and the gifts he gives us are without measure.</p> Ellis, when I was in college,…tag:nffquaker.org,2017-08-14:6286598:Comment:330132017-08-14T01:39:38.932ZDan Davenporthttp://nffquaker.org/profile/DanDavenport
<p>Ellis, when I was in college, some of my friends used to refer to the teaching i described as "cheap grace", i.e. not costing the recipient much. But even that criticism was from a basis of understanding that grace was a gift that overlays our condition rather than transforming it. We ought to try to be just and righteous, but "you know, nobody's perfect!" </p>
<p>This better understanding of Grace is about being led to a better place, being taught how to live differently and helped to do…</p>
<p>Ellis, when I was in college, some of my friends used to refer to the teaching i described as "cheap grace", i.e. not costing the recipient much. But even that criticism was from a basis of understanding that grace was a gift that overlays our condition rather than transforming it. We ought to try to be just and righteous, but "you know, nobody's perfect!" </p>
<p>This better understanding of Grace is about being led to a better place, being taught how to live differently and helped to do so. As you have written elsewhere, the Prophet we are to hear in all things is full of Grace and Truth.</p> Dan, It has been a while sinc…tag:nffquaker.org,2017-08-13:6286598:Comment:330112017-08-13T02:04:34.771ZEllis Heinhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/EllisHein
<p>Dan, It has been a while since I looked in the dictionary at the back of Strong's Concordance. But as I recall grace is defined as "Divine influence upon the heart and its reflection in the life [of the recipient]." This is a very different concept than what you reported above. Fox's summation of the Gospel, "Christ has come to teach his people himself," is grace in action. This puts a very different outlook on "My grace is sufficient for you." I do not know where the teachers you refer to…</p>
<p>Dan, It has been a while since I looked in the dictionary at the back of Strong's Concordance. But as I recall grace is defined as "Divine influence upon the heart and its reflection in the life [of the recipient]." This is a very different concept than what you reported above. Fox's summation of the Gospel, "Christ has come to teach his people himself," is grace in action. This puts a very different outlook on "My grace is sufficient for you." I do not know where the teachers you refer to came up with their concept of a theology of grace, but it has nothing to do with the definition of the word we translate as "grace."</p>