Comments - First the Law, Then the Gospel - New Foundation Fellowship2024-03-29T14:43:47Zhttp://nffquaker.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=6286598%3ABlogPost%3A23473&xn_auth=noI've put a request in to our…tag:nffquaker.org,2015-01-22:6286598:Comment:236512015-01-22T18:30:11.856ZPatricia Dallmannhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/PatriciaDallmann
<p><span>I've put a request in to our yearly meeting library for </span><em>Studies in Christian Enthusiasm, </em><span>which will arrive in about a month (it's at a monthly meeting library for a few weeks). So, I'll post any information about the Fox quote that Geoffrey Nuttall provides. It's an early Pendle Hill pamphlet from 1948. Thanks for posting the passage. I, too, find the Fox quote intriguing, as it describes a type of error that consumes many more today than it did in Fox's own…</span></p>
<p><span>I've put a request in to our yearly meeting library for </span><em>Studies in Christian Enthusiasm, </em><span>which will arrive in about a month (it's at a monthly meeting library for a few weeks). So, I'll post any information about the Fox quote that Geoffrey Nuttall provides. It's an early Pendle Hill pamphlet from 1948. Thanks for posting the passage. I, too, find the Fox quote intriguing, as it describes a type of error that consumes many more today than it did in Fox's own time.</span></p> I ran across the following pa…tag:nffquaker.org,2015-01-21:6286598:Comment:237482015-01-21T13:10:06.882ZEllis Heinhttp://nffquaker.org/profile/EllisHein
<p>I ran across the following paragraph in Lewis Benson's <em>The Early Quaker Vision of the Church</em> from Quaker Religious Thought, Vol. 2, No. 1, p. 7, (Spring 1960) which I thought applicable.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hearing God's voice "while it is today" does not mean emphasis on the subjective psychological factor of Christian experience at the expense of the historical and social factors. Hearing and obeying the voice of God leads men into a holy community and it leads to a prophetic…</p>
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<p>I ran across the following paragraph in Lewis Benson's <em>The Early Quaker Vision of the Church</em> from Quaker Religious Thought, Vol. 2, No. 1, p. 7, (Spring 1960) which I thought applicable.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hearing God's voice "while it is today" does not mean emphasis on the subjective psychological factor of Christian experience at the expense of the historical and social factors. Hearing and obeying the voice of God leads men into a holy community and it leads to a prophetic understanding of the meaning of history. The word that is heard today is related to all that God has said and done before. It is only as we become obedient participants in holy history that we come to understand the meaning of salvation. As Fox found himself caught up in the messianic event and saw heavenly Jerusalem coming down to be established again in the earth, he was able to read the Scriptures aright because he had come into the relationship that the prophets and apostles were in who gave them forth. Fox rejects the claims of all who assert that their individual Christian experience is sufficient and that they have no need for holy history. It is such, he says, that "start up to be as Gods and never came through the prophets, nor Moses' house, nor Christ..." [there is supposed to be an apostrophe after Moses, indicating the possessive. But it keeps getting cut off.]</p>
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<p>That final quote from Fox is taken from Geoffrey Nuttall, <em>Studies in Christian Enthusiasm</em>, p. 86. I would be interested if anyone knows Nuttall's source. I would like to see the whole context of what Fox is saying. The quote is such an enticing morsel.</p>